OH JOHN RINGO NO!

Many thanks to Ran for bringing our attention to this veritable gem!;-)

You MUST read this review.

I find it shocking that stuff like this gets published, but what the heck!?! You will laugh -- or cry!:p

Though the books seem incredibly bad, I'm tempted, in a sick sort of way, to read at least the first one. . .

16 commentaires:

earthgoat said...

No. No really, don't. I swear, it's a bad idea!

Alsem WISEMAN said...

Just unbelievable!!!
"Oh no John Ringo no!" Indeed...

Mike said...

Oh my god..

Shane said...

Yikes

Icarium said...

you know, the fucked up thing is that i wanna read it now... in fact, im gonna go buy the 1st book tomorrow at the book shop.

Anonymous said...

If you must read it, baen has the first one(maybe more) online for free.

Anonymous said...

not the worse of john ringo's works. and seriously if its so bad its good. then its worth a read surely makes one appreciate the other books out there alot more

Anonymous said...

They're awful books. And maybe the most unabashedly racist SF being published today. Not just 'un-PC', mind you. Michael Richards, Don Imus David Duke level racist. Other than when I've lurked on white supremacist sites for my own sick amusement, I don't think I've ever read anybody who hates Arabs and Muslims so much.

A P Mullaly said...

Hey make sure to read the comments to the review. Ringo shows up and talks about where he was at when he wrote the books.

Anonymous said...

About racism - it's news to me that Muslims are a race.
The description of sex are not for everyone, but they are comparable to quite a few mainstream books published today

And if you want a real racist sf book, check out Araminta Station by J. Vance - that one shocked me when I read it for its unabashed racism - well it's in the good cause of environmental conservation and the Yips are so clearly inferior ...


Conrad

Anonymous said...

Good god.

If you must satisfy your morbid curiosity, please do it through a used book seller or the library.

Anonymous said...

Conrad - 'whites' and 'blacks' aren't biological 'races' either. They're big diverse groups of people lumped together by poor 19th c. science hat claimed there were only three types of people in the world (caucasoid, negroid, mongoloid). There's no such thing as 'race' if you ask a responsible biologist. It's about how societies treat groups of people. So no, Muslims aren't a race, but they sure as hell get *treated* like a race.

Much more to the point, I can't explain how much these books suck. I've made myself read two bc I'm sick like that. The quality of the writing is about on par with a 1988 straight-to-video Delta Force knockoff. Except not as funny.

J. Hall said...

I'm sorry but..that was the funniest thing I've read in days.

HE ADOPTS THEM. LIKE CATS.

Sorry. I just can't..stop...laughing.

Redbear said...

you just have to remember, John wrote Ghost just to get it out of his skull, he never intended to let anyone else see this, let alone sell it. And then some people asked him what he meant by his s**t work, and he let them see this, and they replied "Yeah, I'd pay money for this." and then Baen heard about it, etc. etc. I do believe this is actually in the review, but still worth mentioning. Like cats, laughed so hard I almost got into trouble at work.

HerbM said...

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the book -- or the series -- in principle.

Of course if you don't enjoy it, or don't want to read it for any reason that means there is something lacking or offensive in it TO YOU which is perfectly normal.

As to racism, I defy anyone to tell me which of the "trainers" in the 2nd book are black, white, oriental, Chicano, hispanic, jewish, or even Muslim for that matter.

Sure, the lead character who has fought Islamists in multiple locations hates 'ragheads' (or at least fines satisfaction in killing them), but then this is mostly just a term he uses for radical Islamists who would kill him in turn.

Yes, the sex is beyond heavy. 'Nuff said; others have written on this specifically.

Yes, the chances of one guy having all these (great) adventures (or more unlikely living through them) are low -- but more plausible explanations are given than are typically available in popular shows like "24" -- IT'S FICTION.

The SpecOps 'details' are some of the best I have every seen (not perfect but then I am way picky and have some knowledge in the field.)

Ignore it or read it.

I am hooked on the series myself.

Wil Golden said...

You are still popping up on Google, so i assume someone is still reading this thread . . .

I will save anonymous a bit of trouble, if i may.

If you really don't like this series, I can promise you will not like anything Tom Kratman writes, or, for that matter, Michael Z. Williamson. Not a cut, they are an, er, acquired taste, shall we say?

The Palidin series (all five) is available free online from

http://baencd.thefifthimperium.com

which has copied of all the free book CDs Baen has released.

Y'all have fun!