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....yeah, are you done with it, can I borrow it Pat...just for a few days. Please?
I am very much looking forward to this volume!
I'll try not to buy into the hype for this one ;)
Sorry, couldn't resist! :P
Been waiting for this for a long time now, thanks, Pat. Still, I've got the feeling that your high score for it is rather misplaced. Being slow-moving is to me the true shortcoming of the preceding two nevels (and not many plotlines) and it seems this one goes further down that direction.
But oh well. We'll live and see. Rake's past is always a must :D
Oh I can't wait! I've loved every single one of the Malazan novels because they are all so different with MoI and BH being my faves.
I REALLY can't wait until the whole series is finished and I can re-read it from end to end all at once.
Hey Pat,
If you didn't know already I thought I'd tell you that you're acknowledged in Paul Kearney's new book. He didn't say anything about beer but I'm sure he'll remember and buy you a pint or two :o)
Thanks for the review Pat, the more I grow to love a series or author the higher my expectations are going in, sometimes ridiculously too high! Still it sounds full of juicy Malazan good times.
Any timing updates on the Toll The Hounds giveaway?
My expectations are way up high now...
Got to say though, I know you usually sumarise the plot in your reviews, but I think the bit about the finale is a teeny bit spoilerific concering who's involved... maybe it's obvious
in advance once we read it, you'd know. But thought I'd say.
Still, good review. Now can't wait.
I'll read the book and very likely enjoy it. I've enjoyed his other works, after all. But other than the extended synopsis (which is really all this "review" was) I know nothing more after reading this than I did previously. There's no consistent opinion within about the quality of the book.
We learn that Erikson has "800 pages spent setting the stage", that "the first three books seem to focus too much on secondary plotlines", and that "most of the book remains a slow-moving affair" -- and yet it's "not [...] boring, far from it" and it "delivers on all fronts"?
So those 800 pages of tedium delivered on all fronts, eh? With the exclusion of an ending that saves what "could have been the weakest volume of the series", it still delivered on all fronts? Despite it's faults (which, if judged by your review, seem to make up the majority of the book) it scores a 9/10 -- this for what was potentially the worst book in the series?
Here's a little comparison -- your review for Hal Duncan's Vellum is gushing in it's praise, singling it out as one of the best books of "any year". And yet it scored a 9/10, the same as this book that disappointed you for 800 pages. I could similarly point to a dozen other reviews in which you've showered kind words upon an author's work, and yet few have scored as high as this, and fewer still managed a higher score -- despite the body of their respective "reviews" reading much more favourably than this one.
I guess what I'm asking for is some consistency. Look beyond your hero-worship of a particular author and judge a book on it's merits. It's difficult, as a reader, to recognise the true quality of a prospective book when the review itself says one thing but the final score quite another.
I must agree with "Anonymous" above me. 800 pages of tedium sounds like a bad book, like Bonehunters all over again. I felt embarassed for Erikson while reading Bonehunters. It was shockingly amateurish.
This line makes me laugh: "But a new god comes into play" Isn't that every Malazan book?
This series went off the rails long ago. The 8th book in the series should not still be setting things up for events to come. I can't believe the Icarium and Mappo plotline has still gone nowhere, and it sounds like it continues to go nowhere in Toll the Hounds.
This 9/10 review has convinced me that I'm done with Erikson.
I agree with Anon and Ker,
9/10 is way too high a rating. And while I felt the the first 800 pages was setting the scene ('cause you KNOW something was going to happen in Daru-city) rather than boring, it was, to me, SE's 2nd weakest of the series (BH, 1st).
However, that said, I don't wait for the release date of any other author. In fact, I rarely buy books anymore.
Exception: Erikson.
Sincerely,
Top Shelf.
This book was the best in the series for me. Kept me enthralled start to finish. Especially finish, couldn't relinquish my grasp of the book no matter how much I wanted to go to sleep.
Kruppe a god? I doubt the comedic encounter would have been the same if he was.
Quit bitching about the rating you pansies.
I just finished it and I loved the whole lot. Sure he can be verbose and long-winded at times but I was riveted for the entire story. I didn't exactly find it slow either - sure there wasn't much "action" but the story was constantly developing and that's all that matters to me.
Ending was just stunningly superb.
US cover makes a mockery of it - shame Mr Lockwood, shame.
I don't what your definitions of "boring" and "tedious" and "slow-paced" are, but I am 100 pages or so into book one and so far there was enough action and excitement to keep me captivated. I don't need fighting every dozen pages to call a book fast-paced or exciting. It's all about the characters and the way they interact, and the dialogues, which are here as savvy and delicious as always and reveling in discovering new things or new meaning to things we read in past book, that's enough excitement for me. So I don't understand all the negative comments here. Steven Erikson seems to be in as good a form as ever.
Now that we are at book 8th, it's sad to know there are only 2 books to go before the series comes to an end!!
The end is nigh, my friends!! So savor every word you're reading.
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