Tired of all that crap that's on TV??? You feel that more shows should focus on the triumph of the human spirit???Well, here's a 10-minute trailer on Legend of the Seeker, the series based on Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth saga. Follow this link to watch the preview.
Whether you laugh or cry or whatever is your business. But please don't be a dumbass and call it fantasy. It would simply show how vapid a person you are in truth. . .;-)
Enjoy!
35 commentaires:
it's fantasy
libertarianism is fantasy as well so it's fantasy either way you think of it
The "Sword of Truth" series was actually the first fantasy series i ever read. As much criticism as the books receive, I loved the first three, then they just started to draw out and become too repetitive. Im almost afraid to watch this Pat. At first it looked interesting but it appears its gonna be "one of those shows." I think it lost my interest from the start when the guy playing Richard Rahl is chopping wood with his shirt off...great! Show off your chiseled 100 pound 6th grade physique. It reminded me of Marc Singer in the ol school fantasy movie "The Beastmaster", who walked around in most of the movie like that-only differece is, that is an 80s cult classic. This has bad vibes all over it.
This series will be a good laugh. Watch it like it's a comedy and enjoy the man-with-no-shirt-on!
okay pat. its not massive fantasy I will give you that but it doesn't sound like its going to be all that bad either. It could be good you never know. we will just have to see
Yep it's fantasy and despite its' flaws Terry Goodkind tells a good yarn. The show has the potential to be good. Sam Raimi directs it and he has good horror creds and Wizards First Rule was kinda dark. However on the other hand Raimi also directed Hercules and Zena for TV which is not encouraging especially if Seeker follows a similar tone. As a plus it is all shot in New Zealand the prerequisite stage for shooting fantasy.
Jenny: I think you missed the joke in that post. Pat alluded to this not being fantasy because Terry Goodkind gets incredibly mad when people say that he writes fantasy novels.
Dragons, monsters, wizards and other tropes do not constitute fantasy elements, at least according to the Yeard.
wait, is goodkind a champion of libertarianism, objectivism, or both? i forget
okay i looked it up, its objectivism. same shit, just slightly more retarded
In fact this "Seeker" might actually be worth watching. I think it's meant to be a new Xena-like show (action-packed fantasy with lots of tongue-in cheek campiness and goofball humour) rather than a "triumph of the human spirit".
Goodkind takes himself seriously, but this show doesn't.
If it is another Xena-like show that will be too sad. I liked the darkness of the books. Another glib Hollywood is so not needed.
Swords? Check
Armor? Check
Women in flowy gowns? Check
Self Illuminating Talismans? Check
Leather accessories? Check
Haunting Celtic music? Check
Old guys in dresses? Check
Looks like fantasy to me.
Aside from that, I couldn't get past the fourth book. I loved the Dominatrix plot in the first, thought it was original but it just start smelling like Wheel of Time after a while.
LOL. Pat I'm glad you got my comment. I thought it was too good to pass up. From a bad book series to a cheesey tv series. The circle is complete. No, I obviously haven't seen it yet. Somehow, I feel safe in my convictions, premature though they may seem. SciFi Channel Saturday night movie anyone? J. Rhys-Davies avaiable?
Actually, Sam Raimi only produces the series ('produces' as in 'sits in Hollywood and counts the money'; he's prepping Spider-Man 4 at the moment). The first episode is directed by someone called Mark Beesley.
I don't expect tv will want to touch the Objectivism element more than vaguely, never directly. It's not very prevalent in the first book anyway. Goodkind is going to regret selling these rights if he hates the word 'fantasy' applied to it, since not a single review will categorize it otherwise. Definitely has the 'Hercules/Xena' vibe going on - same cookie cutter, same feel. Can't figure out why they changed the name - maybe Goodkind insisted on a new one, just in case...
Pat its really annoying with your creepy obsessive repulsive goodkind fetish.
Everyone knows you hate him, quit beating a dead horse and focus on that "book" of yours that in all likelyhood will never be equal to toilet paper.
"Swords? Check
Armor? Check
Women in flowy gowns? Check
Self Illuminating Talismans? Check
Leather accessories? Check
Haunting Celtic music? Check
Old guys in dresses? Check"
MURMAIDER MURMAIDER MURMAIDER
Pat! Thanks for the link, I've been wanting to see this preview for a while.
:D
Can't figure out why they changed the name - maybe Goodkind insisted on a new one, just in case...
considering he threw a tantrum when he found out people were writing fanfic and tried calling plagiarism on them
Hmmm, the trailer was interesting, but I can't really judge the show yet, but as of now I have a highbudget Xena vibe.
It also seems to me that some people here have missed out on a certain joke. Pat, I think it's time you pulled out some old Goodkind quotes ;)
I also don't understand why they changed the Title. It would have been made it easier for Goodkind to market his books again.
If this show does not make an effort to pull away from Conan/Xena, it will get ratings like those shows and be looked down upon like them. I'm more concerned for studios thinking of Fantasy as too much of a risk and HBO being afraid of going ahead with Martin.
Seeker will the light to ASOIAF dark, kinda like comparing original Star Trek to the Sopranos. One looks like light and fun and the other should hopefully be dark and gritty.
Two pet peeves: I don't know why, but American accents just don't work for me in fantasy movies and two) Darken Rahl looks like Snape in a Shakespearian play. He's supposed to look sinister, not like every other fucking fantasy villian who has long black hair and just acts snotty.
About the name change, I read somewhere it was so they didn't have to change the name of the series if they go into the other books.
While Goodkind may not feel he is writing "to" fantasy readers, his works do have elements of fantasy. That does not preclude him from stating he is writing something other than fantasy per se.
Personally, I think you demean yourself with your inability to offer up unbiased or neutral opinion on his works, much less the tv show.
You may not care for him or his work, but you have to give him his due. He has sold a great deal of books and he has a solid following of diehard fans.
Let us also not forget, he beat AsoIaF and Wheel of Time to the punch. So, depending upon how they do with the seeker thing, I am willing to bet it will have an effect. Kind of a "pebble in the pond" ripples effect (pun intended).
As an aside, I much prefer your entry's without the usual dripping sarcasm. Is it that you are finally maturing? Or that you realized the need to be somewhat civil and less mordant in order to find publishing houses to buy into supporting your habit?
Are you now telling us you are Venal.
I'll watch the series, I mean, why not..
But, man, was it me, or was like every 2-3 minutes they had a slow mo scene..
Chopping wood...slow mo...drama x10...
Yesh. Hate slow mo ..
It's slow mo every few frickin' seconds, looks dumb, will no doubt watch about a quarter of the debut and then never again.
To all the anonymous posters out there dissing Pat's (rightly deserved) hatred of all things Goodkind - Go Fuck Yourselves! And with the pretty much anonymous nature of using a handle on the internet anyway, what the fuck is with just using the anonymous option anyway? Idiots.
This is not a public whinge board for you to tell someone how to write what they wanna write, review who they want to review, or not diss who they wanna diss. Fuck it seems as soon as someone types something on the internet they expect people to think that their opinion matters.
I know mine doesn't and is as meaningless as a bear's fart, which is more than I can say for yours.
Fuck Goodkind over as much as you want Pat, he's a fucking hack who does not deserve any kind of accolades or respect. That being said, the prick has done more than I ever could in the writing field so who the fuck am I to judge eh?
"You may not care for his work, but you have to give him his due. He has sold a great deal of books and he has a solid following of diehard fans."
Huh?
What?
Solid, simply solid.
Must have hit a nerve there jebus. For so much hatred one would get the impression you are in Love with Goodkind and jealous as a woman scorned?
Did we just see you throw yourself down into a tantrum?
Me thinks the "hack" is you jebus, and Pat, who cannot seem to get off anything coherent or intelligent without nasty trite commentary.
Like it or not, Goodkind has made millions and has more to make. And by all accounts (The world according to Wert), beat the hell out of most other fantasy authors.
So unless you've done anything even close how about you go try your own remedy and do that anatomically impossible act on yourself eh. I'm 100% sure that you'd be the first to accomplish the feat.
Until then, it would seem there is nothing, nothing you can do to change the reality of things.
"fuck yourself"? Really, how endearing, how utterly intelligent.
I bet your mum is so proud.
Not going into the Goodkind diatribe per se, but since when is 'the books made a lot of money' a touchstone for literary value or writing ability?
It could simply mean good advertising and/or being into 'what's popular' in a given time (like writing about, let's say vampires in a moment in which vampires are 'in' ).
I agree with Marina, but I have to point out that what she describes is the case with many "big" authors such as Brooks, Salvatore, even Feist. Yet none of those has earned so much sarcasm and scorn from Pat.
I don't care much for Goodkind. I stopped reading his shit at about Book 5. Still, no one could deny that he HAS been very successful and this IS something worthy of some degree of respect, regardless of what kinds of moron he is.
As for the "fuck" guy - Dear Jebus, I wholeheartedly agree: your opinion really doesn't matter and it DOES have the subtle meanings of a bear's gases. I feel so content we are in agreement...
@Roland: Funny you should mention Brooks, Salvatore and Feist, as Pat has never sang the praise of either on this blog.
Especially Feist, who got a bit savaged in Pat's last few reviews. I remember one commenting that WotC would have turned down the book for their Forgotten Realms line... Ouch!
I'm no book reviewer, but I have to wonder why some people seem to think that a reviewer should not be allowed to hate works/authors.
@Mystar: Yeah, we all know it's you! Pat cannot seem to get off anything coherent or intelligent without nasty trite commentary??? If you read any thing but the Goodkind posts, you'd see that you're wrong.
Roland, agree with you, mine was more of a general comment than a specific about Goodkind, although I tend to avoid talking about him ever since trying one of his books.
I don't even recall which one it was but I recall very clearly the feeling of knowing what was going to happen since I had already read it...in Robert Jordan's books.
I don't deny anyone the right to hate works/authors. I just think expressing this hate so often and with such venom when you're a book critic (don't tell me that's not what Pat is - everyone who has written so many reviews and read so much quality literature IS a critic) is not very... mature. And I don't think it's necessary.
That said, the trailer is appalling. This show is going to suck SO much...
We should probably give the series a chance before writing it off entirely. After all, by changing the name and moving away from the book storyline they've made a good start ;-)
Also, with a recent precedent, the BBC Merlin show looked pretty poor before it aired and has turned out to be reasonably fun and diverting. Plus Raimi and Tapert have some good form behind them. The biggest problem so far is that the two lead actors are very bland, so I think we can look forward to Bruce Spence and Ted Raimi stealing every scene they are in (and Bruce Campbell, when his inevitable cameo comes).
Roland: I think it's been months since Pat last mocked Goodkind, so I don't think anyone can really claim he does it often. Too often for Goodkind's fans, of course, but other than that you can basically count the times he does it per year on the fingers of one hand.
For my money, as long as he is objective when writing his book reviews, it's all good with me. He can hate anyone and it won't prevent me from sleeping soundly at night!;)
And we must all admit that Terry Goodkind makes it awfully easy for people to hate him...
There's a "Making of" and first episode of this series posted on iTunes now. These two installments are currently free to download.
Thought you might want to know.
I agree with Dream girlzzz.
I read the books and totally loved wizard first rule. Whoever have read WFR and especially, Debt of Bones, cannot deny Goodkind can write... whenever he is not trying to preach. The second and third book were ok, but then it was all a big joke. I read all the books, hoping that he will eventually give up trying to be a filosofer (which he is not, calling yourself a filosofer does not make you one!) and get on with the writing, but no luck there.
Yes, I, like many others, do hate the guy. But I can hate him and still love some of his work (fantasy-wise). His fans should understand and give us all Goodkind haters a break :)
Oh... well, that's one of the worst pilot episodes I've seen in a very long while. It's practically dripping bad dialogue and ridiculous script all over you.
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