The results from our last survey are in:





The results from our last survey are in:





My vote is for 'Rules of Ascension' by David B. Coe. Mainly because I've not heard of David B Coe and I'm always up or hearing about new authors.
James
Greg Keyes. His first book in this series is very good and he deserves a lot more attention.
The Briar King, I am very curious about that series
It's been ages since I read anything by Michael Moorcock. I'd be interested to know what you make of this one. Elric, vote one.
King's Dragon!
I read that and ended up having to get the whole series just so I could know what happened. It's in my "currently-reading" pile at the moment, as a matter of fact!
The Briar King is Martinesque - think of it as George RR Martin light. That could either be exactly what you want, or something you have no interest in. I really liked the first 3 books in this series, but the 4th and concluding novel was a real letdown.
I tried David B Coe's Winds of the Forlands book 1. But after reading Steven Erikson's works, I couldn't sustain enough interest to finish the Rules of Ascension. I dropped it after a few chapters. Still, I'm curious what you'll make of it and if you like them maybe I'll give it another go.
I deem Briar King by Grey Keyes to be too much of a safe choice. The Kingdoms of Thorn and Bone reads like light A Song Ice and Fire novels. Only better because the series is already finished. So there's a lot to like about it.
Rules of Ascension, ive been wanting to read that book for a while
I loved the "Winds of the Forelands" series by David B. Coe. I couldn't read each volume fast enough; I just wanted to know what happened next. Interesting characters and a compelling story.
I enjoyed the first three books of Keyes "Kingdom of Thorn and Bone" books, but I need go back and read them before picking up the last. I've forgotten the various characters and plot threads.
Rules of Ascension, by David B. Coe. I've read recommendations in favor of this author on a forum board, but it wasn't what I'd consider reliable. I'd like to see what the Hotlist concludes.
I would have preferred that you read The Reality Dysfunction, since, as you said, the last poll was quite close.
From the current group, the only one I really have any interest in is The Briar King.
I am not immensely excited by this poll. The list is nowhere near as high-quality as your last one.
Still, KING'S DRAGON is a solid book and CROWN OF STARS is a decent series, if overlong (by the author's own admission). It could probably have stood having one volume shaved off its length. It has many strengths but a key weakness is that Liath, one of them major protagonists, is incredibly annoying. There is also a problem that the best scenes and most dramatic moments are superbly realised but the moments inbetween can be more mechanical. Still, a decent series.
THE BRIAR KING is better-written, but the series takes a huge nose-dive in quality over the course of its length. The first two books are very good, the third is weak and the fourth is a flaming plane crash into an oil refinery that then gets hit by an asteroid. Carrying zombies. The weakness of the final volume means that I can no longer recommend the first book in good faith: why set yourself up for a fall.
Elric: emo without a cause. Anomander Rake is basically a much better cover version of the original character, and I see no need to revisit the tepid inspiration.
Against the odds, I find myself recommending RITE. Tad Williams is best-known for his doorstopper fantasy series, but in his short fiction he displays a much greater range and diversity of style. I just finished his story in SONGS OF THE DYING EARTH which was a highlight of the book, so I'll go for that, with Elliott as a second preference.
Rules of Ascension is exactly the kind of book that would get panned in a review here. Linear plot with a main character who manages to always have just enough magic to overcome seemingly endless odds. There's one storyline that develops in books 4 & 5 that was satisfying. The rest is very formulaic.
I vote for Greg Keyes. I read that book a fair few years back now and for the life of me I can't remember if it was any good or not, so I'd be interested in your take on it. Might inspire me to go back and read the rest of the series.
That's difficult.
I own the German edition of the "Crown of Stars" series (12 books!!!) and read two so far. That means just The Kings of Dragons.
The Kingdom of Born and Throne is also completely on my desk but unread.
I don't know "Rules of Ascension" by David B. Coe but I'm interested in.
So three choices and how to decide. I think I will vote for "Rules of Ascension" because I doesn't know it.
This is totally shallow but I think you should read Rite by Williams. Why? because I like the cover. Very nice. :)
I agree with those who liked "Briar King", but found the quality decreased later in the series. Even though I hate it when authors drag series on and on (won't mention any names), I think it would have been far better had Keyes concluded the series with two books, instead of one (the fourth). It seemed as though he were rushing to wrap it up (perhaps tired of the project, and wanting to move on?). But I really liked how he used ancient lore (and the discoveries that can be made burrowing in old scrolls) and music in his story. On balance, I'd still recommend the series overall.
Would be interested to know your thoughts on the Keyes series though I've already read it. I found the 2nd and 3rd books to be the best int eh series.
I am currently reading The Kingdoms of Thorn and Bone by Keyes and have been very impressed so far (I'm about halfway through the second book). No, I haven't finished the series, so I can't comment on it as a whole - but The Briar King alone ranks within my top 5 favorite fantasy books. Regardless of any imminent decline in series quality, I strongly recommend giving at least the first book a go.
The Briar King.
Although I agree that the series ended up a disappointment, the first two books are fantastic.
Surprised you haven't read Greg Keyes yet, Pat. But my vote goes to David Coe - I've been tempted to pick up that first book in the FORELANDS series for a while and I'd like to get your take on it.
Elric! Since I bought it and am apprehensive to start, but your review may push it towards the front of my everincreasing pile
Even I have come to feel, with passage of time, that I'm a tad overrated. I'm still worth a read just for the pleasure of Mr. Moorcock's classical prose, but I'd give my recommendation to Greg Keyes.
"The Kingdoms of Thorn and Bone" are worthy of being read and digested on their own merit without being diminished by the tiresome and belittling GRRM Lite comparison. Keyes has a wonderful imagination and the story has a grand cast of memorable characters.
I'm going with "The Briar King."
For those who, like our good friend Elric, are tired of the mini-GRRM dismissals, I'd say that the author whose storytelling is most comparable is actually Raymond E. Feist. The difference, in this case, is that Keyes's characters are far more textured and complex, and his plotting and worldbuilding are more ripened and matured.
"I'd say that the author whose storytelling is most comparable is actually Raymond E. Feist. The difference, in this case, is that Keyes's characters are far more textured and complex, and his plotting and worldbuilding are more ripened and matured."
Also, like Feist, the series starts off superbly and then takes a catastrophic jump down the toilet to such an extent that you cannot believe the later books are written by the same guy who wrote the earlier ones.
Of course, it took Keyes three books to do this and Feist about a dozen, so the comparison is not entirely accurate.
I quite like Keyes and many of his other books are very good, so I am still left a bit nonplussed on what went wrong with this series.
THe Briar King is a pretty good series. Four books total. If you're interested you should just pick it up and read it. I wish there were more people writing such series.
How about some spoiler-ific specifics, Adam Whitehead? I enjoyed Keyes's "Kingdoms of Thorn and Bone" series immensely. I might characterize the fourth book as being a bit raggedy, but I'd hardly say it's an epic collapse/gigantic betrayal of the series.
Definitely the Tad Williams book. I've read and enjoyed him since Tailchaser's Song, but I think he is more talented with the short story than he is with the novel. I haven't read this collection, and now I want it!
I won't get into the spoilers here, but the book is written very poorly. In the first two volumes Keyes is enthusiastic for the story, the world and the characters and that carries you along. Characters have motivations for what they are doing and the plot makes sense.
Book 4 is mechanically-written. The author is taking absolutely no joy in his work and feels like he HAD to write this under the threat of deadlines. Characters do things for no reason other than the writer needs them to do them. Formerly likable characters are now two-dimensional caricatures (particularly Anne). The ending is very lazy and obvious.
I get the impression Keyes suddenly had an idea for another, more exciting project and rushed through he last book to get it out of the way ASAP to move onto something more interesting to him. I can't really explain the total collapse of the story any other way.